It is failing simply becuase the sport appears to have no control in allowing this bullshit equipment. The splitting part of powerlifting is really all he's promoting in reality. Though it’s been a while since he officially held the title of World’s Strongest Man, he’s been carrying the competition on his massive back and reputation for nearly three decades. It is so much cooler to get two hundred pounds more than you should than it is to have a legit, respectible sport. [/quote] In the future someone can acutally compare themselves to an Olympic raw champion, as can the millions of high school athletes lifting raw. Hey, whoever you are spreading this "gear has got to go" LIE. The people rule. These gear records will only highlight gear records, and no one will care ten years from now. Peace. Magnusson began powerlifting in 1984, and in 1985 he won a medal in the junior European and World Championships. Itis by no means the same, why didnt he start a strongman fed? Equipment had nothing to do with the WPO being taken out of the Arnold. Indeed, Magnusson is one of only two men to have won the title three times consecutively, the other being Bill Kazmaier. His best lifts in competition include a 400 kg (882 lb) squat, 275 kg (605 lb) bench press with shirt and 250.kg raw bench press, 375 kg (827 lb) deadlift, and a total of 1015 kg (2238 lb). The drug testing is and always has been the weak link along with the fact that powerlifting joins thousands of other sports that does not have the funds to make it to the Olympics yet. The more raw stuff the better. I understand it is not an issue of being scared as in gutless, and see why they would want to delay that until more and more hop on the raw bandwagon, but this delay will reflect in the Olympic waiting game. No matter how much you spread this idiotic lie of yours that it's about the "gear", the truth remains that gear is a big plus for any sport. Equipment is in every sport. Just becuase someone is wanting to keep something does not make it right...or else you will have a hard time explaining how anyone is ever wrong in a war. [/quote] Hmmm, now if I can only line up sponsorship for the first ADAU World Champinonship in Iceland... ;). Magnus has not done 250 raw bench that is for sure. He won the Senior European title in the 125 kg (275 lb) class in 1989 and 1990. He keep all the powerlifting in his country under his rule by doing the more popular WPC meets, and adding the tiny ADAU type fed as well. Soon, these people fighting so hard to keep things ridiculous will merely be a footnote in a strange time, a time when lifters were allowed to use technically advanced clothing to increase their lifts. Joecool: There are those among us who will fight tooth and nail to keep gear around. wait; I thought the raw movement was 'fledgling' LOL, only the strong survive Magnús Ver Magnússon has built a powerful body of work. Benedikt "Benni" Magnússon is an Icelandic strongman and powerlifter. It was about the money. (Spurning more interest). Magnús Ver Magnússon (born 23 April 1963) is an Icelandic former powerlifter and strongman competitor. It's about the money. Do you believe? The Ollympics likes sports gear. The drug testing is necessary for the Olympics. [quote=REALITY]Hey, whoever you are spreading this "gear has got to go" LIE. The Ollympics likes sports gear. Magnus wants to pick up the few raw lifters he can. Hell yeah way to go Eric, congrats to Magnus for seeing the future of our sport. [/quote] Do some research. It is failing simply becuase the sport appears to have no control in allowing this bullshit equipment. Single ply, drug tested powerlifting is the present, past and future. That's what he thinks anyway. The sport is a measure of strength for crying out loud. Like it or not, a large spread of drug-free, raw powerlifting is probably what it is going to take to make it an Olympic sport. ULTIMATE SIZE, STRENGTH, AND STAMINA: BUILDING POWER BEYOND HUMAN LIMITS:by Jeff Hackett, Magnus is running WPC in Iceland and it is not drug free fed. Now we got World reknown strongmen starting up there own feds that will ONLY have raw meets. and no, i'm not trying to start a equipped vs. raw lifting flame war. Magnus plans to sends athletes from Iceland to compete at Raw Unity, and in turn we (Raw Unity) will promote and encourage lifters that attend Raw Unity to check out the competitions that Magnus plans on running across the pond. Anyone who is looking to boost their deadlift is probably also going to want to increase squats and bench too, so here’s the details below: Pre-Conditioning (2-6 Weeks) Monday Session – Squats. if gear was a big plus for any sport then why is it always a big deal in powerlifting?? Great Eric this may be they start of something epic. No matter how much you spread this idiotic lie of yours that it's about the "gear", the truth remains that gear is a big plus for any sport. I bet they did not grunt to each other " Eh...Mongo...what do raw, hotshot". The IPF did it right. If that is the only gateway, then it is failing. The reason so many like the gear is becuase of inflate numbers, period. Repeat, gear had NOTHING to do with the WPO being removed from the Arnold. And, since most lifters are ordinary people, its nice to say that you bench 600 pounds or more. And well, it is not realy wpc. Just asking, why would a Strongman lifter and champ start a powerlifting fed of any kind? And he does not have the bigger part of icelandic lifters, they are at wpf, and then the ipf. [quote=Carl]I almost hate to do this but, I'm gonna have to agree with the above,anonymous poster. If the IPF is too scared to make a total committment to raw lifting, then another organization will rise. You take the stupid equipment arms race out of the equation, and you will more than triple the amount of respect any sub committee will have for the IPF. How many years will pass before people wake up. That's what he thinks anyway. Wpc is not big in iceland. [quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just asking, why would a Strongman lifter and champ start a powerlifting fed of any kind? Becuase there are more normal lifters than elite, its a win win. He is regarded as one of the greatest strongmen of all time, and is credited with developing Iceland's national identity. They also require WADA approval. A standard powerlifting routine, but with deadlifting prioritised. Magnus was a powerlifter before going to strongman. Eric Talmant, [quote=Eric Talmant]Raw Unity has been in direct personal contact with Magnus; and we have offered our support of his efforts to promote raw lifting in Iceland. The mighty Sigmarsson was the Icelandic champion and World's Strongest Man for quite some time. That should tell you something right there about the future of gear. Gear is here because people want it, like it and have a great time with it. Itis by no means the same, why didnt he start a strongman fed? No, raw doesn't have a chance of being in the Olympics. If too much gear was a factor in the demise of the WPO from the Arnold, then minimal gear still leaves a question mark. The drug testing is and always has been the weak link along with the fact that powerlifting joins thousands of other sports that does not have the funds to make it to the Olympics yet. [/quote] Magnus wants to pick up the few raw lifters he can. We are very excited for the future of raw powerlifting not only in the United States, but throughout Europe and the entire world. Magnusson began powerlifting in 1984, and in 1985 he won a medal in the junior European and World Championships. Sorry if the truth hurts your program. [quote=Anonymous]Yeah, yeah...the IPF is the only gateway. The only benefit those who want gear will get is the ability to say with a straight face that they benched 500-600 pounds at one time. [/quote]Gear had nothing to do with the WPO being removed from the Arnold. Peace[/quote] Who the hell ever said you should be denied that option in the first place. It's about the money. The splitting part of powerlifting is really all he's promoting in reality. I personally do not care how stubborn the gear guys are in their arguments...only the blind are missing what's coming. Four of those were won by the great Jon Pall Sigmarsson, the rest were won by the man who took up his mantle; Magnus Ver Magnusson. Are you going to bring up this bullshit golf clubs advance, shoes advance, yadda yadda, same old bullshit. The Olympics is about one thing... money. Sorry if the truth hurts your program. please dont misunderstand my statement. Now we are waving the freedom flag? [/quote]. Average guys feel like superman at the watercooler and the elite could care less, they are still elite and can boast about inflated numbers. Remember that his country doesn't have much population anyway. All we need is a lil unity. "Gear is her ebecuase people want it, like it and have a good time with it" Extra dollars is what it's about. [/quote]The IOC requires that there are at least 90 member national federations actively involved in the international body. A few want to end the freedom of people to choose as they wish. [quote=Anonymous]Just asking, why would a Strongman lifter and champ start a powerlifting fed of any kind? Powerlifting gear is not a neccissity. Itis by no means the same, why didnt he start a strongman fed? No, raw doesn't have a chance of being in the Olympics. Look at the issue, not give some overly exaggerated metaphor like comparing gear to your civil liberties. [quote=Reality][quote=Carl]I almost hate to do this but, I'm gonna have to agree with the above,anonymous poster. The IPF is the only gateway because they're a member of GAISF. hopefully others will start to think like eric and magnus. Friggin cavemen could have held some sort of strength contest for all we know. Equipment is hear to stay. It was about the money. The majority lift in powerlifting gear because they want to. No other federation is close tothe number of countries, members or ratification of WADA code. That being said, PL has almost zilch chance of making it into the Olympics for decades. I know the word was that drug testing seemed like the weak link when everything else appeared good, but I'm not convinced. I understand it is not an issue of being scared as in gutless, and see why they would want to delay that until more and more hop on the raw bandwagon, but this delay will reflect in the Olympic waiting game. He holds the raw deadlift world record with a lift of 460.4 kg (1,015 lb) in 2011. It's too bad that a few raw guys want to chain down others. All these other sports that "evolved" with equipment always had it in some form or another, mostly for neccessity. Jón Páll Sigmarsson (28 April 1960 – 16 January 1993) was an Icelandic strongman, powerlifter and bodybuilder who was the first man to win the World's Strongest Man four times. However...raw stands forever. If PL ever makes it to the Olympics it will be equipped because of the bigger numbers, bigger more exciting audiences and more dollars. In football you need helmets, in golf a club is pretty important. He also set the world record for the heaviest strongman deadlift of 461 kg (1,016 lb) in 2014, which stood until Eddie Hall lifted 462 kg (1,019 lb) the next year. No one is waving a rebel flag here. Magnús Ver Magnússon (born 23 April 1963) is an Icelandic former powerlifter and strongman competitor. There have been several articles done on this.