Mostly they do, but I know that Falco's utilt's first hitbox is active frame 3, not frame 5. http://smashboards.com/threads/comp...-every-character-now-with-ko-percents.383550/, http://smashboards.com/threads/frame-data-2014-11-2-huge-update.375868/, http://smashboards.com/threads/upda...ox-frames-for-pikachu-on-3ds-and-wiiu.392029/. Zero Suits noticed that the spreadsheet has invincibility on up smash frames 8-14?

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Utilt: 11th fastest at frame 15; hers alone. After labbing Isabelle's jab knockback and hitstun for a while, I've put together enough data to create a frame advantage graph for it: After labbing Isabelle's jab knockback and hitstun for a while, I've put together enough data to create a frame advantage graph for Isabelle's jab: Sorry!

1 of 3 Go to page. Hey everyone, I decided to manually test and write up the frame data. Well none of the speedy characters got amazing OoS options.

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Did you discover The Hitstun Formula? You thibk jab is viable at?

Side Smash: The fastest at frame 10; out of 4 characters.

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I was doing an incorrect input. I made a site that has frame data for all characters that you can use easily from your phone (add it to your home screen for quick access!). Jab: 3rd fastest at frame 3; out 9 characters.

Looks way off from my testing. You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor.

Great guide though, really interesting! I actually didn't download the day 1 update (because I had automatic downloads turned off and I was feeling a touch impatient to play the game), so this could mean they actually made balance changes from 1.0 to 1.1.

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But I'm afraid his Utilt hits on 5, not 3.

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Mega Man's stuff is weird. The issue is that he doesn't feel like he has a lot to make up for that, though. Like, if you wanted to confirm Mario's jab 1 still hits on frame 3, and had a character whose spot dodge invulnerability ends on 16, you'd need to time Mario's Jab input on frame 13 so you hit them on 16. It doesn't feel like he has tools to justify the loss of OoS options. Ultimate Edition, Nintendo Super Smash Bros. Dec 10, 2018 #1. I could swear it WAS frame 3, anyway. Alternatively, this ad may have just failed to load. Other damage-able entities (like say DH Gunmen) take standard, non-increased damage. go premium to hide all advertisements and this notice.

Dash Attack: 7th fastest at frame 10; out of 6 characters.

Well it's clearly supposed to be the move 'whirlpool', so it makes sense that it'd have special qualities.

Did you discover The Hitstun Formula?

Does this formula generalize to other moves? GameCube Controller Super Smash Bros. This site uses cookies. Ultimate Edition Pro Controller - Switch, Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Edition Pro Controller - Switch, Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros. It's still reduced if used in the air and he lands before the endlag finishes.

Jab: 3rd fastest at frame 3; out 9 characters. Thought this would be useful for competitive players to quickly glance over and compare frames. We have a frame advance tool in training for testing. Ultimate Edition - Switch or a Poké Ball Plus.

Jab > DSmash will work when Jab has 8 or more frames of advantage.

Any weird properties or effects you have found jab to do?

You might want to express Spot Dodge total frames as X/Y alternative values, such as 21/25 for Mario.

Hey everyone, I decided to manually test and write up the frame data for all the characters in the game.

I wonder if there's a reason for Greninja's standing grab being as slow as a tether grab.

For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I dunno if this is a fluke or how many other things might be in the spreadsheet like this.

Ftilt: 5th fastest at frame 8; out of 4 characters. But aerial shieldstun is drastically reduced.

I get the feeling Greninja was intentionally given poor OoS options, given his slow standing grab, aerials, and upB, the fact that his upB isn't exactly an offensive tool, and his usmash being slow to hit to his sides. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.

I thought perhaps all dash attacks have some unique formula, but I have not found another one with an abnormal amount of shieldstun.

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So with a new patch coming next week, I think I'll have to keep my game in patch 1.1 both for the sake of these charts pertaining to the same version of the game and for the community patch notes I expect we'll be stuck doing. Ultimate Edition Pro Controller - Switch, Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros.

By jingo, it does. Ultimate, GameCube Controller Super Smash Bros.

Is there data on pivot grabs in the charts? It appears that you are using ad block :'(. To help with this, as you plug in your controller for player 2, hold the opposite direction on the control stick so that once the stick resets to neutral, it holds the intended direction.

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Hi, I noticed there are some numbers in Olimar's frame data that seem to contradict with the data that I have. Will get to grab data eventually/when I have time~. You must log in or register to reply here. You must log in or register to reply here.

I've updated the graph with notes and other small things that hopefully makes it clearer. KH API; Ultimate; Smash 4; Rivals of Aether; Melee; ausmash.com.au It took somewhere over 100 hours to count out all these numbers, and I hope people can find use for all of it.

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Can you tell me what and where.

Sonic's F-tilt is missing. JavaScript is disabled. This site uses cookies. Those were the only two I noticed. Ultimate Edition Pro Controller - Switch, a Nintendo Switch Super Smash Bros. I know there's a ludicrous amount of data, but it might be good to review or have it checked. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies.

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Ultimate Edition - Switch. The 1v1 damage modifier is applied after calculations, thus shieldlag and shieldstun in a 1v1 setting is identical to matches with more than two players.

Woops! Ultimate Edition, Nintendo Super Smash Bros. It will work on a lightweight (in the following case, Sheik) starting at … Well all the dodge stuff is finished. You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. https://www.desmos.com/calculator/5awtrkbdti, https://www.desmos.com/calculator/3lcn15wlam, http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Formulas, https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/1065752807859412993, https://www.desmos.com/calculator/kv7byoqdd0.

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Nothing. Nice, I've used this to f-tilt at the ledge a few times now!

(I've also fixed a problem it had.).

Does this formula generalize to other moves?

I tested by going frame by frame and looking for upB, so I haven't tried this with double jump or air dodge. It's interesting and makes you play Greninja differently. Use shield to find your FAF. The lag on shuriken makes it predictable and easy to perfect shield, the reward is not high unless fully charged, and shadow sneak is far too laggy to be used to approach or even punish most of the time.

Cool, thanks.

This is sort of what I meant by "I'm not sure why he was designed as such".

Dec 20, 2015 #4 Updates: - Added frame data … Alternatively, this ad may have just failed to load. In Ultimate, a true rapid jab was added as a third stage of the natural combo, giving it a proper final hit, but its unique two-hit consecutiveness remains.

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There may be something special about certain attacks.

Ultimate Edition - Switch. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community! The first hitbox has always been quite potato, I cant test right now but you might need a jumping enemy above Lucario for it. Also, including Mii's would be nice. Woops! Zapp Branniglenn Smash Lord.

I pretty much never use pivot grabs in general. Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! So I was looking at the Bird's frame data to see if the numbers I got matched. Im looking at doing some Frame data analysis for Lucario. go premium to hide all advertisements and this notice. Ultimate Edition, Nintendo Super Smash Bros. Thank you for putting this together, LGameTales!

This site uses cookies. Zapp, I can volunteer to help with frame data. Jab: 2nd fastest at frame 2; out of 10 characters. I don't doubt the potential for mistakes, though I've been doing this sort of thing for years.

Both are unique in other ways, as well. UpB, Aether, has super armor on frame 5 when grounded, and frame 15 when used in the air.

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