My only complaint is the low BB; though it does help the handling I get too many pedal strikes here in the Southwest (could be the 180mm cranks, or my sloppy technique!). For me the geometry is spot on. so what are our options for a proper 29+ SS with QR sliding dropouts? Vassago made this for only two years. Everything climbs like a goat goes like hell up or down great all around bike handles great cant say anything bad and it only weights 26lbs not to bad for steel, love it!!! certified pre-owned 141 Point Inspection. put in an order for a medium Jabber today! This is the first and only 29er I've ever ridden, but am very happy with it. the industry, Vassago 29er specific 3AL/2.5V titanium tubing, Ovalized and oversize chain and seatstays, 44mm headtube - use a standard 1 1/8" or tapered Vassago JabberWocky Mountain Bike - 2017, Large Regular price. Because as unimpeachable as the ride "Never trust a man in a blue trench coat. Those brass screws are for the Titanium sliders on the Optimus. I was also keeping the suspension fork 100mm to keep the bar low. I built a Karate Monkey and the Vassago needs a new mission. We knew we geometry and handling characteristics. Two bikes. My impressions are that even on the roughest descents, I couldn't tell a noticeable difference between carbon and steel, maybe slightly damper than an aluminum ride. So the stock ti frames are not the same as the Titanium Black Label frames that are made in the US? I didn't say so, Vassago said it and Paragon Machine Works confirmed it.

The cable guide on the BB also had paint all over the threads. The geometry is very close to genesis of the GF. I know they went thru a tough period and have been bought and sold a few times but come on, to snake my frame and never respond just isn't cool. It is free of structural damage or repairs and is in excellent cosmetic shape. New Vassago for me. and seatpost still has plenty of length. Stable at speed. Pity cos I was looking forward to that frame.

I will sell as frame only as well along with cranks headset stem post and front fork for 1700. @*OneSpeed*- Did you mean set, not side? Looking for something less XC'ish for my next SS. Not just a swanky looking bike, but one that backs up its looks with superb handling, ride quality, and modern features. At this point I am obviously never seeing my frame again and I could can less but I felt I should post my experience with the company. It's a different size screw. A tad heavy, but it is steel. offerings because we’re based in Phoenix, AZ, where we have access to one of Weight, slow speed handling (mostly just a 29er thing), seat post slipped until I added a shim, some grip paste and a Salsa clamp. This is a great frame regardless...the price makes it even a better value. Awesome trail geometry. My first 29er was an XL and though I liked the big wheels, I hated the handling. The only other thing I know for sure right now is that it's 170mm rear with Paragon drops. It's literally a mountain goat and gives you a rushing sense of, I have too many fat bikes. I suppose a fully rigid setup would show the difference better. Weak paint, chips alot. Not even close. It does feel a bit slugish on tight turns but that is to be expected. It does feel slower on the takeoff compared to a 26er. Vassago Cycles - Steel and Titanium Bicycles for those who know the difference Just to add to the customer service issue, I to had a poor experience, I was on verge of buying a jabberwocky 2 weeks ago, I emailed them twice within 5 days with a few questions before I pulled the trigger but I received no replies to either of my messages. I think Soma has the same problems with keeping stuff hanging around for very long. Similar Threads. The bike Mack_Turtle bought does not, and never has come with brass thumb screw slider limiters. The Vassago Mooseknuckle is nothing short of spectacular. steerer fork, Sliding dropouts with options for boost 148x12 geared or singlespeed applications, 148mm rear spacing, 73mm threaded bottom bracket, 30.9 seatpost, Internal Brake and rear derailleur routing (no internal front derailleur routing), Front Derailleur: Direct mount, top pull, 34.9 clamp, Optimized for 120mm travel squishy forks (29er), 130mm travel squishy (27.5+) or 480 rigid (29+), Tire clearance for any 29er tires, and up to 3.2" 27.5+ tires, for boost 148x12 geared or singlespeed applications. Was one of their event show bikes, hence the bad-ass unique orange color scheme. Amazing climbing, great power transfer, soaks up the trail like it has suspension.

The new Vassago team continues the tradition of superb handling 29er frames at price points that are hard to believe!

Can also be geared if that's your thing. And it does so in a way that is all Currently fully rigid steep gearing at 34x18 for NC. I have like 4 pair laying around gathering dust. After looking at many different hardtails - On One, Niner, Specialized, cheap Chinese carbon, etc.- I got this frame on a smokin' closeout deal and couldn't resist. Now you can get your Kingdom bike direct from some of the most dedicated and professional people in the bike industry TF Tuned.

Also the fork, wheels, bottom bracket are a huge upgrade compared to my old Gary Fisher. Steel gives great compliance over small rocks and bumps. could do high quality, titanium at a much better value than is Looks killer, TKO specs are perfect. Let's talk about Vassagos! They were about 1mm too long, but that did not cause any issues, YMMV. A few weeks goes by and I reach out. I want to ride a bicycle, not a chopper. It’s If someone can't answer a few simple questions then they're not getting my hard earned cash. Ride she about 6 month and happy :). Clear, WTB: Vassago All Road TKO Ti or Donnybrook 56cm, 2016 Vassago VerFetten Steel Frame w/Lauf Carbonara Fork. It is more sluggish than my kona unit 29'r and more rigid but overall more enjoyable...hard to put into words, but I will put it this way....could afford just about any bike out there, but this little cheap-o fits the bill. It's not a boost/non-boost thing either, since I'm 90% sure SRAM just uses chainring offset to set the chain line. QR dropouts should be much less for the pair. I'm told yes we have the frame but haven't looked at it yet. I would read this post and think, im not giving that company money. It has sliding paragon dropouts. I was also intrigued by the claimed "flexiness" of a steel framed bike. Benefiting from the years of development of Vassago’s geometry and specifications as well as from the decades of ti bike manufacturing experience of our builders, the Optimus Ti features size-specific tubing spec for the perfect ride tune. The Verhauen uses paragon sliders. manufacturing experience of our builders, the Optimus Ti features size-specific Ridden mostly on rocky, rooty, often steep and tight singletrack.

It does everything you ask of it and then some, None that I have found. The Vassago Mooseknuckle is nothing short of spectacular. I like it.

$ 2,250.00 The Satyr. 1630 grams. Geometry. Vassago FB messaged me back a little later saying he had one in hand, and wanted to know if I would prefer it mailed to me or dropped off at ShadeTree bikes, a lbs near my house, because he was headed there. 480 axle to crown. Ridden SS and has about 200 miles on it. exactly my concern. -- Tom Waits. Just suggesting something easy to check. old news, but I just emailed PMW to ask about replacement bolts for these sliders. Get the latest mountain bike reviews, news, race results, and much more by signing up for the MTBR Newsletter. I owned a jabber that had those sliders and was able to use the paragon bolts just fine. Gotten lots of positive comments on my Vassago since its a not a too common, big corporation bike. the industry, Vassago 29er specific 3AL/2.5V titanium tubing, 44mm headtube - use a standard 1 1/8" or tapered Other then my subpar customer service experience the frame rocked and I would recommend their products just not their customer service.

I heard those are dangerous. Coveted. Salsa El Mariachi is what I ride now.

And to the Tool that can only find the website to complain about , if being sold out is being "poorly run" then they're poorly running it right. I am guessing this is due to the long top tube and long chainstays. The long seat post (Thomson 27.2) really helps soften up the rear end. I emailed Tom and he said US-made steel is coming back. So just be aware that the X01 Eagle (and I would assume XX1 Eagle as well since they're almost identical) GXP cranks are not compatible with the 2018 VerHauen. The Phantom Silver is just gorgeous seconded only by Bone White and Pitch Black. I sent them these photos and they said that these are not their product. Paint seems to be another common issue on Vassago bikes, my Bandersnatch easily chipped in some areas and some paint were scuffed from minor cable rub. A completely different company. Sometimes I have to remind myself on screaming downhills that it's a hardtail, and slow down a little for that inevitable rear wheel smack. A month goes by and I reach out, crickets, another month reach out crickets, 6 months, crickets. Please donate to IMBA or your local IMBA chapter. Vassago Mountain bikes reviews, ratings, photos, and prices. Email: [email protected]

Brass thumbscrews like the website clearly shows: no. If it's just one side, check that the frame is straight. I have no monetary interest in Vassago but do not suffer Fools and Morons very well. The current Vassago is light years ahead of the old ownership in quality and customer service fwiw. Its not about giving them the money. Bike rolls smooth and feels very stable once the trail points downhill and fast descents are confidence inspiring. $ Tried like hell to get it out and damaged the frame. Also does anyone know where the Ti frames are made? Condition is Used. But minuses work out to pluses on the overall ride. Redline Monocog29er, Fisher Hi-fi Plus (26), Grean quality, perfect fir (wetcat geometry is really what i need), great looks. You can use a frame alignment guage at a bike shop, or find a diy version that involves string. 7.2K likes. My other current ride is a Dean Colonel 26, and I can whip the Vassago around almost as fast as the Dean. I was on a Gary Fisher Tasajara 26'er before this. Any condition. Did not come with seatclamp or waterbottle bolts. The Bander is appropriately named, it just wants to be ridden fast. Vasssago offers something that not many people d0. Beloved. cheap, solid, excellent geometry (if it's your cuppatea) and a nice looong top tube.