Rubbish. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, SNMG1 and SNMCMG1 operate together in the Baltic Sea, HMS Dagger and Cutlass new Gibraltar patrol boats, British warship delivers vaccines to remote islands, HMS Westminster completes patrol of UK waters, British patrol ships monitor 7 Russian vessels, Chinook helicopter assists restoration of wildlife habitat, Babcock play ‘key role’ in Spanish S-80 submarine rollout. German Destroyer Z-32. Very few national governments across the EU have managed to bring these marginal communities along. Z32 was a German Type 1936A (Mob) destroyer, which was completed in 1942 and which served with the 8th Destroyer Flotilla of the Kriegsmarine during the Second World War.She fought in the Battle of the Bay of Biscay against HMS Glasgow and HMS Enterprise, alongside the German 8th Destroyer Flotilla and the 4th Torpedo Boat Flotilla. On 18 July 2007 Daring sailed on the first set of sea trials (Stage 1.1), successfully completing them four weeks later on 14 August 2007. Most RN escorts, are Not single role vessels, but mult-roled like most of the frigates, it is just their primary role is anti submarine warfare, they have other roles as well, such as AAW, the T23s are now armed with Sea Ceptor air defence missiles. Need to get some competition into this market somehow. New frigates based on the RAN Hunter class. According to a press release from the Government: “The £16.5 billion investment confirms our order of 8 Type 26 and 5 Type 31 frigates, commits us to the next generation Type 32, and supports the future solid support ships that will supply our Carrier Strike Group. And you also lose the opportunity for huge deals to build ships in Australia and Canada to your designs. And a great example in the benefits of the UK, should anyone in Scotia need reminding. HMS Daring D32 (Type 45 Destroyer ) 1248 x 563. Shortly after the destroyerwas sent to France and operated there until being beached during the Battleof Ushant June 9, 1944 off the coast of Brittany. I’m afraid these kind of comments are exactly what separatists thrive on. Speaking to the defence committee, defence secretary Ben Wallace said: ‘The Type 32 we hope will come further along from the Type 31. All I suggested, as others have in here, that we could settle on a well developed and sorted hull and machinery/equipment design and keep shelling them out like peas from more than one shipyard. I wasn’t making an argument. Service Period: 1988-Present. Would reduce build, support and training costs. Length: 566 feet 7 inches (172.69 meters) Beam: 64 feet 4 inches (19.61 meters) Draft: 29 feet 10 inches (9.1 meters) Displacement: 7,570 tons. This comes after Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced what the Ministry of Defence have called “the biggest investment in the UK’s Armed Forces since the end of the Cold War” , confirming an injection of £16.5 billion over four years. Hi James, as David Barry says, defence contracts can be done ‘in house’. SAMPSON multi-function AESA radar HMS Daring (D 32): HMS Daring is the lead ship of the Type 45 or Daring-class air-defence destroyers built for the Royal Navy, and the seventh ship to hold that name. More detail about the ships are expected to be revealed in the integrated review of the UK’s foreign, defence, development and security policy, later this year, or in the update to the 30-year naval ship acquisition plan – which is due to follow the integrate review announcement. Type: Guided missile destroyer Displacement: 6,600 tons standard, 8,480 tons full load Length: 156 m (511 ft 10 in) Beam: 17.3 m (56 ft 9 in) Draught: 6.5 m (21 ft 4 in) Propulsion: 2 shaft steam turbines, 4 boilers, 75,000 kW Presently and in the near term we just need more frigates with sonars, missiles and flight decks. I really can’t see where they belong. “Babcock has been strategic (which we often deride UK businesses for not doing) and invested in a T31 frigate factory, presumably with some government encouragement”. The MoD also reported as saying it was a T31 Batch 2, hopefully an up gunned variant. You’re right of course…. ‘Fifteen surface ships means only five on task, as a third will be in maintenance and a third will be training. However, with Type 52D production still going strong, it appears that the Type 55 is not intended to replace the Type 52D, but to supplement them in service. But the vessels could also be used as part of Britain’s future carrier strike group, supporting both HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales. Hi Cap’n, If it is constructed in Scotland, it will be “Forth Built” at Rosyth. But hey ho, let’s big it up. Thanks, Grant – I think these announcements are a great day for the UK. Just my thoughts. The Type 31 is only five ships. Stage 1.2 incl… And if you really want to throw up examples of botched manufacturing – how about Nimrod MRA4 at Woodford, near Manchester? Type 052D The overall performance of the 052D destroyer is considered by some analysts to be superior to Japan's Atago-class destroyers Firepower Two 32-cell VLS for surface-to-air, surface-to-surface, anti-ship and anti-submarine missiles; launcher for short-range air defense missiles; torpedo tube; anti-submarine warfare rocket launchers The Type 055 destroyer (NATO/OSD Renhai-class cruiser) is a class of stealth guided missile destroyers being constructed for the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy Surface Force. ©JPIMedia Publishing Ltd. All rights reserved. Base level, recommended equipment for this fight is The first Type 23, HMS Norfolk, was commissioned in 1989, and the sixteenth, HMS St Albans was commissioned in June 2002. Last year I think. Maybe a couple of guys in a corner starting to put together a requirement statement and a budget line in the equipment plan. Just stating a fact. You are correct if any meaningful work was to commence right away on the Type 32. The propulsion system of Type 051 destroyer is steam turbines with 4 boilers and 2 turbines rated at 72,000 hp (53 MW), and 2 shafts, giving a max speed of 32 knots. This way there is funding reserved for the extra ships, although the precise value of the funding will need a lot of work obviously. Would love your thoughts, please comment. So Govan quality control is run by subcontractors? It is a multi-mission design; the combination of sensors and weapons suggests a main role of area air defence , with anti-submarine warfare capabilities surpassing previous Chinese surface combatants. An added advantage would be compatibility with the RAN. But tell you what – we’ll do a swap! Unfortunately defence is just another government expenditure, a piece of the overall pie every county of the UK wants. F78 HMS Kent a type 32 Frigate & D97 HMS Edinburgh a type 42 Destroyer alongside Royal navy Dockyard Portsmouth southern England A Sea Dart surface to air missile hangs from the launcher on the bow of the Royal Navy destroyer HMS LIVERPOOL. F78 HMS Kent a type 32 Frigate & D97 HMS Edinburgh a type 42 Destroyer alongside Royal navy Dockyard Portsmouth southern England Naval News learned from a reliable UK source that this is in fact some sort of ‘pre program’ put in place for budgetary reasons in anticipation of a future potential ‘Type 31 Batch 2’. Trouble is, come a war, all the empty arguments over what they will or won’t/should or shouldn’t be used for go out the window. EU integration improved our efficiency collectively but at the human cost of these local communities. “Over-unionised, lazy, & stroppy “- it’s not the 1970s anymore! Type 32 = Type 31e – export version that will come with all the bells and whistles Tupe 31 should have, and indeed could????? What are the navy’s plans for the current frigates? We could do with a few more ASW focused frigates, either T26s or maybe a better optimised T32. If we had 40+ escorts we might be able to keep a small class out of harms way (like the Tribals in 1982), but with barely enough escorts to cover the essentials we don’t have that luxery. If you continue to build with the same design you lose design skills as we saw with the Astutes and even the USA with its destroyers and frigates. 95% I read a while back, mind you a huge chunk of that is from China. If Boris gives in to France, he is toast. Many say Oh we won’t face the Chinese near their home waters something that alone says ” defeat ” They turned the South China sea into a Chinese lake! Babcock’s is spending 50 million on a large empty shed to keep out the rain, and plating line. 'Heavy delays' after crash on M27 leaves lane blocked, Man left unconscious after being attacked twice in Portsmouth city centre. Hércules was built in the UK and Santísima Trinidad in the AFNE Rio Santiago shipyard in Buenos Aires. Go take a look at the Specs, then look at the quantity, then take a look at the Frigates . They could also be subject to a standard, rolling upgrade package as and when needed, instead of chopping to a new design every time we wake up and decide we want a new ship. I say cynical but something has to give and I don’t feel that strongly about this point. On that basis, it would be an astonishing development if the main contract was handed to another yard. Characteristics. We seem to be almost unique due to the fact that we mainly designate a single task to each type of escort ship….. I.e our frigates are a 90/10 split for anti submarine warfare and the Type 45’s we have are 95/5 split for air… Read more », Hi Steve, I’m not sure that the sparse details of the T32 released thus far point to any particular role this vessel may or may not have. Now fresh details are beginning to come to light about the Royal Navy’s mysterious new Type 32 frigate programme. It’s not East of Suez. A frigate factory building 10 ships at the rate of 2 at a time. Type 31 just doesn’t do it really. You do remember that workers on the Clyde recently built/assembled two 70, 000 aircraft carriers? The prime minister has already tabled plans to ‘deploy more of our naval assets in the world’s most important regions’. The Arrowhead 140 hull provides the growth potential for electrical power and the beam for heavy radars and weapons. Projects that were once completed at a local level, went to EU firms that could do the same job… Read more ». The exact role and make-up of the vessels is yet to be officially announced. Join our new Royal Navy news Facebook group to keep up to date. Specifications. The first 32 coukd be built alongside the last 31. To new number is now 19 destroyers & frigates. ‘We embarked upon an eight-ship, Type 26 frigate building programme in 2017, but the first ship, Glasgow, won’t be commissioned until 2027.’. 2. ‘Next generation’ could be successor spin to ‘world beating test and trace’ I think T31 was about maintaining the magic number of 13 frigates. 4,000 & 7,500 tons each full load. The saying is, “The Jack of all trades, is a master of None”! Since No. Job done now. Then again if you look at the Population difference, it’s not too hard to see why “English Factories get huge defence contracts” . A key focus point is the Asia-Pacific. 6- T26 (reduced from 8) 5 to 8 – T31 By having a Hunter variant the royal navy would have a swing role frigate combining the best of the T26 –ASW Combined with serious backup to the T45. We have left the EU.. We left the EU months ago. I’m not sure we will be building enough to have competition within a class, even batches. The navy’s current fleet of 13 Type 23 frigates will begin to leave services on an annual basis from 2023. Combined with the six Type 45 destroyers, the total strength of the navy’s high-end warships – excluding the two carriers, patrol ships and minehunters – will be 15. Discussing this news, respected defence journalist Xavier Vavasseur at NavalNews said: “While the 8 Type 26 frigates (also known as the City-class) and 5 Type 31 frigates were already planned to be procured, the real surprise in today’s announcement is the mention for the first time of the “Type 32”. Defence is not subject to EU rules afaik. At the moment the out of service dates for the T23s are considered flexible. Ultimately the UK was a big driver in the current EU rules, which in turn are heavily based on WTO rules, so in the end its a no scene beginning position made up by Boris so he can say he won somethjng in the negotiations. Agree,ive not had time to read all the comments from yesterday but to me the Type 32 seems a bit like a distraction – concentrate on what we are planning now ( T31/26) Enhance the T45 if possible and try and Speed up production. Do you really think we would risk a no deal over fishing. Very true. Though it seems the French seem to have finally accepted they’re going to get the same access to British waters as they currently do. Wise to take BJ with a pinch of salt of course. EMCO Malware Destroyer 8.2.25.1164 on 32-bit and 64-bit PCs This download is licensed as freeware for the Windows (32-bit and 64-bit) operating system on a laptop or desktop PC from antivirus without restrictions. The Type 051B Luhai-class is a class of destroyer built by the People's Republic of China.It consists of only one ship, DD-167 Shenzhen.When Shenzhen was commissioned into the People's Liberation Army Navy Surface Force in 1998, it was then, the largest surface combatant that China had ever built. If we have the necessary men and equipment in place then I doubt it would be viable for different yards to compete with that. Clearly it would be sensible to get good designs in the small medium and large categories and then mass produce hopefully making some foreign sales in the process. These are the guys that glued bolt heads to the deck in the River class ships. Sticking with the same hull should be cheaper with no need to redesign major components. Get over yourself. The breed of warship will be … The PLA Navy's official Sina Weibo account also released a video on February 11 mentioning a warship named after Suzhou, East China's Jiangsu Province, without elaboration or footage on the ship that makes its type identifiable. EMCO If it were based on Scotland’s contribution to GDP, they wouldn’t get very much. Hi Cap’n, I certainly hope other UK yards get FSS and the new survey ship – plus build modules for T31 batch 1 (and batch 2?). But that means we also end up with fewer and fewer ships, to the point where availability suffers and/or we have no defence in depth and cannot sustain a single ship lost in combat. Either way, the Mob is getting another 5 escorts so that’s a positive. 120 Chengdu Type … They form the core of the Royal Navy's destroyer and frigate fleet and serve alongside the Type 45. This comes after Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced what the Ministry of Defence have called “the biggest investment in the UK’s Armed Forces since the end of the Cold War”, confirming an injection of £16.5 billion over four years. And they have been agitating for separation since the 1960s! Fishing accounts for 0.01% of the economy. Surely the best to achieve the required number of warships is to use the existing planned platforms, given the hardware and software costs that have already been incurred in designing developing and building them. The Type 31 design does not belong to OMT so no, another firm could not circumvent Team 31. And a great example in the benefits of the UK, should anyone in Scotia need reminding. Surely the best way to get 24 escorts is to speed up construction of both Type 26 and Type 31. It means that the number of frigates will have reduced to nine before the first new ships join the fleet. It’s understood they will be based on a similar design of the Type 31 – which goes into production later this year. Where a design is already known about but the yards compete for the manufacturing? Not forgetting that building these Ships at H&W Belfast and H&W Appledore would be a great political decision keeping the promises made for UK ship Building and taking nothing away from Scotland. The Type 45 Destroyer’s communication’s suite also includes a Meteorology and Oceanography (METOC) system, which provide the ship with total awareness of the surrounding environment. All that swapping from one design to the next does is create jobs in the drawing office. Denmark no longer has the ability to build its own warships. Bulk up hull numbers at relatively low cost. However, the EU introduced the Common Fisheries Policy, concomitant with our joining. Additionally, outlining how the cash would be spent, Johnson said that the funding would help “spur a renaissance of British shipbuilding across the UK – in Glasgow and Rosyth, Belfast, Appledore and Birkenhead”. In total fourteen vessels were constructed in three batches. During these trials, Daring reached her design speed of 29 knots (54 km/h) in 70 seconds and achieved a speed of 31.5 knots (58 km/h) in 120 seconds. Why don’t we call the QE class, “The Pride of Scotland!”, Sadly Alan I think doing so might well have broken some folk on this site…. In addition to the Royal Navy ships, two more ships were built to the same specifications as the Batch 1 vessels for the Argentine Navy. Wouldn’t want to be on a Type 31 in their backyard. Why donI get th feeling this is nothing more than a Bung to BAE because their modified River class frigate didn’t win the Type 31 contest. To many of the poorer coastal communities that 0.01% is everything and increasing it only fractionally will make life better for them. Type: Destroyer. “Scottish intransigence”? But unfairly withholding defence contracts from Scotland will certainly fall right into the trap the SNP has laid for you – and turbo-charge its campaign. Type 42 Sheffield Class Guided Missile Destroyer HMS Edinburgh, the last of the Royal Navy's Type 42 destroyers, officially bowed out of service 06 … You are right. Babcock has been strategic (which we often deride UK businesses for not doing) and invested in a T31 frigate factory, presumably with some government encouragement. 1. Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said today: “We’re going to commit to the next generation of frigate the Type 32. I would like to think that the proposal to build another class of frigate has been well thought though and examined in great detail to strike a balance between flexibility, affordability and capability. Even if Denmark wanted to build an extra IH frigate tomorrow, OMT would still need to update the design to meet current standards & replace outdated equipment. As she is the first in the class some structural areas needed to be tested, including the loads that the main 4.5-inch Mark 8 naval gunputs on the ship. Not even vaguely true. A T32 with DEW armed, will certainly require greater energy generation capacity then a T31. Just a thought. No idea why we continue to reward Scottish intransigence. My theory is that the T32 will be ASW and based on the T31 and could be built sooner rather than later because the money is in the next 4 years. True, it may turn out to be a ‘souped up T31/MCM mothership or indeed a ASW oriented FF to support the T26’s, but, there is just no information to go off, so, all this is just speculation. I think every effort will be made to ensure they are maintained until the Type 31 enters service. The T26 build probably cant be speeded up and that may concern them. They’ll be drafted wherever needed & only seen by the enemy as enemy warships. Type Destroyer Class L Pennant G 32 Built by Scotts Shipbuilding & Engineering Co. (Greenock, Scotland) Ordered 31 Mar 1938 Laid down 23 Nov 1938 Launched 4 … The Clyde/Forth complex is a UK centre of excellence in frigate/destroyer manufacturing. Type 55 Destroyer Specifications Length – 590′ Beam – 66′ Draft – 22′ But that seems highly unlikely. Sorry Ron, I haven’t mentioned anything about loss of skills. We have had plenty of chances to use state aid within the rules and have generally not done so. English factories get huge defence contracts, let’s not pretend otherwise. The Type Zerstörer 1936A (Mob), Z32 is a rank III German destroyer with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB/RB/SB). A frigate is simply not large or powerful enough to do it…… end of. The news was welcomed by military top brass in Whitehall, with a defence source telling The News: ‘This is the first time that we have grown the frigate and destroyer force in my memory...It’s great news for us.’. Only the Spruance, Kidd (563 ft or 172 m) and Zumwalt classes (600 ft or 180 m) are longer. By your argument, then, much of the north of England wouldn’t deserve those huge long-term contracts in aerospace and submarine construction. Although one can certainly see other UK yards building modules for assembly at Rosyth. small minded. Same with state aid, multiple times other EU countries have used it and it’s been tested as fine and the UK gov for same cases have blamed EU for not using it, when in reality they didn’t want to use and knew they could. Probably the type 54A frigates & type 52D destroyers. The video shows that the Huainan is a Type 052D destroyer, and indicated that the warship was commissioned into the PLA Navy before the report date, analysts said. It always seems to be a new, clean sheet design instead of, for example, just building more T31s, if necessary to a slightly modified design. It’s the EU that is digging it’s feet on state aid, while the U.K. is digging it’s feet in over fishing. You are right but we don’t know yet how T26 or T31 will turn out. “Next Generation” If not the “next generation” Type 26 and 31 might suggest another Level sort of like a 6th Generation fighter aircraft. Also don’t forget the main gun for anti-surface(ASuW), and Harpoon. Both designs are fresh enough to to be updated slightly and then rolled off again. Yes I think this is correct! Ignore the rest, its shall we say…. Brexit negotiations are shrouded in a whole load of smoke and mirrors aimed at being able to blame the other side when they don’t get a deal because rhey didn’t have a idea… Read more ». Unless they wanted to build an unimproved IH design, an opportunity that the world has somehow managed to resist quite well for the past decade. We’re going to commit to bringing online the Type 31 and Type 26 Frigates in Scotland.”. Fishing does account for an extremely small part of our economy, and the remain MSM constantly point that out. ‘Further work is required to develop the operational concept however it is envisioned that Type 32 will be a platform for autonomous systems, adding to the navy’s capabilities for missions such as anti-submarine warfare and mine countermeasures.’. His fears were echoed by former chief of defence staff Admiral Lord Michael Boyce, who warned: ‘Our number of frigates and destroyers are anorexic, and this has been exacerbated by the Type 45 problem. It has already trialled this with HMS Montrose, a Type 23 frigate based in the Gulf, with crews rotating every six months. The tone and delivery of BJ speech to parliament hit the spot. Meanwhile, HMS Queen Elizabeth has already been earmarked to sail to east Asia – including the South China Sea – later this year as part of Britain’s new carrier strike group. “It is still HMG’s intention to build the 13 planned Type 26 “ … The next day the intention changed. Hi Ron, I think those “guys” were sub-contractors working on the build of the Forth while the main work-force was engaged on the QE Class. The best example of sticking with a sound basic design is the US Arleigh Burke class, in production since 1988 and still being ordered. That said I can see a fairly urgent role for a ‘junk buster’ to police our global trade supply lines.What we are missing though I think is (other than QE class) a class of vessels with the teeth to enforce our political will. So I would like to see one specialist role for the T32, and with other lessor roles as well. This would save on design time, allow for a faster build rate and cut costs as the overall ‘on-costs’ would be spread between more vessels. Threfore, will the number of T23’s remaining in commission be extended to maintain the 19 total until such time as the new T32 hulls are commissioned? George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval defence technology and cyber security matters. But history says we should take these announcements with a pinch of salt. Can’t see any point sending them into a Hot Spot. As I posted elsewhere I wonder if the T26 contract can be accelerated reducing unit costs and another couple inserted to make sure there is no gap before T4X? From what I’ve been told it doesn’t actually provide all that much of a benefit to keep a design from generation to generation. I personally know some of the people at the Govan yard; they are very professional, and proud to build ships for their navy. Besides China is building a larger navy than the US and is doing that to challenge us elsewhere far from South China Sea where we may face them and need credible ships. It’s also not about fishing alone. Centre of excellence my foot. The Type 32 will hopefully follow a similar track.’. Glad to see someone who gets the nuances about independence, Scottish politics, Scottish shipyards and the wider defence industry. Lol. Over unionised, lazy, & stroppy with it. Time to come off that high-horse, Ron ! Which, in turn… Read more ». Would have been better if they had moved the T26 and T32 south of the border. They appear to have good radar, E/O and Comms kit. Focus the T26 on its core role of global ASW carrier escort. I find this quite an upsetting subject! Tru dat. The Type 45 Destroyer is fitted with a Fully Integrated Communications System (FICS45), which provides voice, intercom, data links and conference calls both internally and externally. Responding to a parliamentary question, the Tory minister claimed the new warships would be deployed as a floating mothership for drone and autonomous tech, which is currently being trialled by the navy. Care to tell us how much these “economies of scale” are worth or are you just waving your arms around? The class was designed in the late 1960s to provide fleet area air-defence. It was introduced in Update 1.87 "Locked On". The vast majority of our trade is by sea. Yes, It was obviously a tongue in cheek comment, “Clyde Built” seemed to sit better. ‘The programme and procurement strategy for Type 32 will be decided following the concept phase, which has not yet been launched,’ he said. Or does Babcocks own the property rights to the design? England can move all the submarine and advanced fighter-jet production to Scotland – and we’ll send down the T26 & T31. I’m forming a picture here based on the wording BJ has used in relation to addressing the future threats. But the original Iver Huitfeld design is still owned by OMT, so in theory, if another firm wanted to build Type 31’s there’s no reason they couldn’t circumvent Team 31 and buy the design straight off of OMT. The faction restrictions of this starship can be removed by having a level 65 KDF character or by purchasing the Cross Faction Flying unlock from the Zen Store. It may use some of the equipment off the T23s and they save money on not modernising the older ships.. 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