Would be an A+ if not for the Clevinger extension. SF is one of most competitive franchises in baseball but thatâs still only 3 teams deep. Are they merely “big names” or are they actually Very Good Baseball Players? In 1968, he was picked up by the San Diego Padres, in the expansion draft. If you are going to play blackjack at the Big Boy’s table ya gotta pony up. But for that to happen, this Padres ball club he assembled will have to live up to the tremendous hype. Padres are always going to be the Dodgers little brother. San Diego Padres Is Trout Still MLB's No. Jan 4, 2021 … The addition of Caratini came as welcome news for Darvish, as the former is his personal catcher. Anyone who voted D or F care to explain? Pre 2019 Thats all you accomplished in this thread really. A few weeks after they won the Kim sweepstakes, the Padres re-upped Jurickson Profar on a three-year, $21MM guarantee. Hence the constant bad takes from you. Pretty fun (except when it’s overly ill spirited) to watch how the dodgers fans on the board try to convince us all how “unconcerned” they are while exhibiting all the signs of sheer panic. This move was a way to free up money this year since we were going to be spending so much of it. You said 2 fairly recent top 100 prospects. Musgrove had an amazing story and then couldnât pitch more than 4 innings the next go, They overpaid for Profar and jumped into a record contract with Tatis likely 12 months before they needed to. I listed where in the draft they were drafted proving you dont need top 10 picks to find talent. Pure delusion. Come back with better takes. Also, 2020 was a clear target for Year No. Smart move. I know Iâm an anomaly but Iâm not a huge fan of the Lindor extension. I really don’t see how anyone could give them less than an “A”. mlb.com/news/mlb-s-top-100-prospects-list-for-2019… Verdugo was no longer ranked when the RS traded for him. That fact, paired with a rocky second inning, led … Fans rarely see this. Caratini played second fiddle to Willson Contreras in Chicago, but he has typically blended passable offense for his position with well-graded defense. Agree with arb eligibles. A-minus, but not a A. I ran some very advanced statistics, sabermetrics and algorithms that aren’t available online and it came up with A-. I prefer the Aâs/Rays model of success; I think it works better and more often. Ranked #97 end of 2017 according to a mlb.com article, Josh Naylor isnt on 2017, 2018, 2019, or 2020 lists. Third ratw band wagon fans like you have tunnel vision. Likewise, Kela has been flawless in the runs allowed department, having surrendered none in 5 2/3 frames. It’s pretty comical you think all their deals were great steals because teams didn’t want to pay guys and Preller got them at a discount. It also allows for Clev to gain trust in the organization that they were willing to “overpay” that last year of arb. 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Kaprelian Mateo Fowler for 2-2.5 years of Gray, Patino Wilcox Mejia Hunt for 3 years of Snell. You havent proven you know what youre talking about thus far. Padres ace Yu Darvish certainly has an interesting history when it comes to the Los Angeles Dodgers.. Of course, he used to pitch for them. Heres how uniformed you are. They traded a huge haul for Clevinger just fir him to blow out his arm. Hold the L. Last time cal quantril was a top 100 prospect was 2017. Quantrill fell off because everyone falls off after they lose their eligibility. After beating the Los Angeles Dodgers on opening day, the Rockies dropped the next three games and are tied for 4th place in the NL West with the Diamondbacks, who dropped 3 of 4 to Padres in their opening series. Not possible. 6), shortstop CJ Abrams (No. You did not let that occur. It’s prevalent on every single Padres thread that I’ve read. Darvish had negative value 12 months ago. Padres nor any team will find talent in a draft unless its top 10! Kim isn’t an upgrade over Tatis, Machado or second baseman Jake Cronenworth, but the team felt it was a worthwhile risk to spend on a versatile 25-year-old whom many regard as a top-1o0 prospect. At one point reports were saying the rays wanted to attach Kiermaier to Snell to unload his financial commitment…..because the rays wanted to clear salary. “…Yankees bought big, but the reality is it was the homegrown core that was their strength.”. Since Preller became general manager in 2014, the Padres have not gone to … The Padres' GM A.J. Youre looking at trades padres made for 4 pitchers whos price tags were lowered due to financial comstraints as if thats normal operating procedure. Weâll see. 0. However, the Padres saw a couple of their top starters – Dinelson Lamet and Mike Clevinger – go down with injuries late in the season, while Garrett Richards then exited in free agency. You willingly came back twice because I got under your skin. They got the headlines, but itâs a B. Are you in a fantasy land where Clevinger is healthy? That's a stark change from the past decade, when general manager A.J. Most notably, they signed former Korea Baseball Organization standout Ha-Seong Kim to a four-year, $28MM guarantee with a $5.5MM posting fee paid to the Kiwoom Heroes. Theres no guarantee ANY prospect makes it. MLB rumors: Padres working on Fernando Tatis Jr. extension; Japanese right-hander has big-league offers Let's take a look at Sunday's hot stove nuggets. Theres a lot of factors youve routinely ignored in your comments. Yeah. You know little to nothing about the current construction of the padres roster and post bad takes as if the Padres wont be adding to the farm while already having replacements ready for guys with 2 or less years left. Plus, it’s hard not to view Darvish as a clear upgrade over Davies. The Padres announced that they have reinstated center fielder Trent Grisham from the 10-day injured list. Truly the âgainsâ are suspect. Gabriel Arias Him alone is worth more than the A’s return for Gray. Preller and the Padres are looking to take the hardest and most fulfilling route to beating the Dodgers. Hill (32nd round) “They arenât getting competitive balance picks with where their payroll is at”, And now you said “You realize competitive balance picks are a lottery”. But yeah teams were just jumping to add financial committmets this off season. They will add mid level prospects but that won’t replenish the farm if Preller keeps trading at this rate. San Diego Padres 2021 Off to a Roller Coaster Start. Youre right about the rankings. So teams werent lining up to take on money not knowing if theyd be able to get fans in the stands. Padres could sure use Quantrill right now to eat some innings. Lmao. 4 blue jays phillies, braves, yankees all broke 100mill, # of teams to spend less than 50 mill this off season on free agents: 22, # of teams to spend money on resigning/extending: 3 padres royals mets all spent 100+ mill, # of teams to spend less than 50 mill resigning/extending: 26. Owen Miller, Note: thought he had 4 years he only has 3. San Diego Padres trade and free agent rumors from MLBTradeRumors.com. Rule 5 and covid apparently dont exist in your limited baseball knowledge reality. Not a single player you just named was drafted by the Padres. Myers (3rd round) Both Las Vegas & fangraphs (a couple really good sources, in particular Vegas, absolutely disagree with your take). You all know as well as anyone that itâs not always this good. @Cos. No matter how the writers or fans try to minimize it, they gave up 12 prospects and multiple additional MLB contributors this offseason. It’s early, but the always steady Melancon has been a bargain for the Padres so far. In Profar, Castro and Moreland, the Padres are now without three of their bench's most important contributors down the stretch. Also mid round picks…. They traded a lot of talent for Snell and Darvish. 21 talking about this. I firmly believe in analytics place in baseball, but this is the comment of the year. The talent they shipped out, and the risk they absorbed, is too great for an A. I’ll say this though: I can’t help but miss the King George era of Yankee baseball. Also amk: Nah I just donât feel the need o keep scrolling back with a Padres homer, Amk 4 hours later…still here….still debating LMAO. 1 Player? Profar’s fourth on the Padres in plate appearances this year, and he has already lined up at four spots (first, second and both corner outfield positions). Its adorable. The only major leaguer they said goodbye to was Joey Lucchesi, whom the Mets acquired in the three-team deal. Kela (12th round) Photo by Abelimages/ Cito Gaston turns 77 today. Quantril fell out of top 100 rankings Mid/end of season rankings Just like at the high stakes table. The rest of his career was up and down, but he had … Tatis wasn’t on track to reach arbitration until after 2022 or become a free agent until the end of the 2024 season, but the Padres weren’t going take a chance on losing him in his mid-20s. The San Diego Padres may have an exciting team, but their former players are also making an impact elsewhere. The Pittsburgh Pirates have shown great confidence in David Bednar, allowing him to pitch in high leverage situations. Hold on my phone is buzzing. 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Once again proving you have 0 knowledge about tbe current construction of the roster. Said youre done debating and you came right back. Not sure if he was in 2016. They arenât too dogs like the dodgers or Mets . After Kenley Jansen got two quick outs, Machado came to the plate and appeared to be in some physical discomfort. m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/?list=prospects, Wasnt on the list in 2019 Anyone who gives a D is probably a Dodgers fan lol. I love it amk. No one would have blamed the Padres had they stopped at Snell and Darvish, but they decided there was more to accomplish. Both moves could backfire especially moving Patino. Course not. More money they ate more of return theyd get. Love it. When the Pittsburgh Pirates traded away Joe Musgrove to the San Diego Padres this offseason, in return the team received back four players, including one Major League ready reliever in David Bednar. Trade targets included Sonny Gray and Lance Lynn, though the Padres instead landed three other high-profile starters via that route. They traded an even bigger haul for Snell. He had one terrific season there, hitting .318/.364/.543 with 29 homers and 93 RBI. You dont. 0 top 100 prospects for Clevinger Preller spent the winter attempting to assemble a championship-caliber roster. Padre fans are cute thinking trading 20 prospects over the past few years will have zero impact on the team. They and the face of their franchise, 22-year-old shortstop Fernando Tatis Jr., made it clear entering the winter that they wanted to hammer out a contract extension. Its almost laughable you discredit the impact covid had on teams and their financial decisions, which clearly played a large roll in many decisions this past off season. mlb.com/news/top-100-prospect-list-2019-midseason-…, Wasnt on the list pre 2020 I never said they were drafted by the padres. Snell only had 4 more months of team control than Gray. Acquired from … They killed it this winter. Think of the Yankees of the mid to late 80âs verse the mid to late 90âs. Incredible job by Preller overcompensating for the loss of Clevinger and the dubious health status of Lamet. “Epic fail” was Preller when he had the chance to trade for Mookie Betts and passed. For at least another year, though, he’ll continue to give the Padres someone who can play multiple positions and offer league-average or slightly better offense at a reasonable annual cost. It’s also the second $300MM-plus contract the Padres have doled out over the past couple years, as they previously signed third baseman Manny Machado to a decade-long deal in free agency. Portland Trail Blazers: Was Powell brought in to replace CJ McCollum? So loving your squad is one thing. Now back in his native San Diego, Musgrove has thrived, having already thrown the first no-hitter in franchise history. I respect everyone’s opinion(s)… but 3% said “F”? Of the 20 how many were rule 5 eligible meaning Padres had to protect them / trade them or risk exposing them and losing them for nothing? So far, so good. I believe Melancon said that his priority for this season was to win a championship. That block just happens to be the current World Series champions, the Los Angeles Dodgers.General manager A.J. You live in a total fantasy land where Preller can do no wrong even though his first attempt a winning was a disaster and he had to completely tank 4 seasons just to be competitive. Padres are a top 10 small market team in the mlb. The Padres finally put themselves back on the map in 2020. Gotta love someone who keeps telling others they don’t know what they are talking about while getting facts wrong. And theyll receive competitive balance picks in 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024. Article i read was from december 2018 but i missed that it was talking about pre 2017 rankings. 5. While Musgrove doesn’t carry a Snell- or Darvish-like track record, he did give the Pirates useful mid-rotation production for multiple seasons. Indians destroyed Preller in that deal. Apr 17, 2021; San Diego, California, USA; Los Angeles Dodgers manager Dave Roberts (third from right) talks to first base umpire Phil Cuzzi (10) before a … In fact, according to MLB.com, it’s the game’s sixth-best system – one that still boasts four top-100 players in lefty MacKenzie Gore (No. The division rivals will square off 19 times this year, with 9 of the games in Coors field and 10 in Chase field. Musgrove & Clevinger (2 years)- in house options include Morejon, Weathers, Gore. Indians got 3 major league depth pieces and 3 mid level prospects. Someone a bit more careful about long term commitments… balancing going all in now vs the ability to adjust in the near future if things donât go as planned. LMAO 2010. Only bad takes are coming from the guy who thinks trading 20 players in 4 deals alone won’t come back to harm them at all. MLB Trade Rumors and News: The Mets new GM is gross and now fired, Padres continue busy offseason . Astros spent 86 mill….next closest 11 mill from the twins. Basically to run down my theory: in this case the big names are good players. But all that being said, I agree that the Pods had a heckuva off season. San Diego showed interest in bringing both back, but they departed for higher paydays elsewhere. Instead, in late February, they succeeded in locking up Tatis into his mid-30s. Cal Quantril, Prospects Cubs chose to eat as little as possible, think it was 5 mill. You follow the Mets and you don’t like trading prospects for “name” players? Along with Davies, San Diego parted with four prospects – shortstops Reginald Preciado and Yeison Santana and outfielders Owen Caissie and Ismael Mena – but all of those players are at least a few years from the majors. This could have been avoided had you stuck to your original statement of youre done debating. They showed interest ranging from mild to serious in free agents such as Trevor Bauer, Masahiro Tanaka, Tomoyuki Sugano, Adam Wainwright, Kohei Arihara and Martin Perez. I’m not sure what your point is. Padres got him because they were willing to give up the most. How many are in a ball at time of the trade? Daily Red Sox Links: Alex Verdugo, Jimmy Rollins, and Sean Kazmar Jr. LeBron James’ true feelings on injury recovery after watching Lakers escape Jazz, Gameday preview: Timberwolves at Los Angeles Clippers, NBA odds: Pelicans vs. Knicks prediction, odds, pick, and more, Brad Stevens Provides Insight Into Celtics’ Plan With Jabari Parker, NBA odds: Nets vs. Heat prediction, odds, pick, and more. The media doesn’t talk about how the Padres keep trading multiple players from each recent draft class including 2 from 2020. Mateo The start of this year’s San Diego Padres season was quite a ride. Youve shown you dont know another team as well as you thought. Which was always fun. Who was âfairly recentâ. Interesting take. SAN DIEGO -- The Padres enter the 2020-21 offseason with the goal of fine-tuning an already playoff-caliber roster. Setting aside the whole mets fan thing, I generally think you have pretty good takes. Acquired from the Indians in the teams’ Brad Hand trade in 2018, Mejia was never able to establish himself with the Padres at catcher, nor did his offense come close to matching the hype. You can’t even name a single player they have drafted in the last 10 years that has come up and been a productive player. Guys drafted in the first round dont make it and guys drafted in the 30+ rounds make it. Youre so uninformed about general aspects of baseball like team control, rule 5, a/aa/aaa, covid & finances, etc you arent considering when posting your ridiculously uneducated comments. We link to the best sources from around the world. On the other hand, the Padres learned in November that Clevinger, who was a blockbuster in-season pickup, required Tommy John surgery. Pretty much. Given the fact Joe Musgrove gave the Padres bullpen the night off on Friday, manager Jayce Tingler was working with a loaded group of relievers Saturday. On the heels of a three-game sweep of the Texas Rangers in Arlington, headlined by Joe Musgrove tossing the first no-hitter in San Diego Padres history, the Friars just kept rolling on Monday, dominating the Pirates behind right-hander Yu Darvish. Along with finding outside starting pitching, taking care of key inside business was among the primary items on the Padres’ offseason checklist. Dude rule 5 is not rule 10. They took nearly every dollar owed to him for the next 3. The D-backs look to climb out of the basement The Arizona Diamondbacks visit the Colorado Rockies this week for a three game series beginning tonight. Myers (2 years)- in house options Ona, Abrams, Hassel But at what value? The Jarred Kelenic/Justin Dunn acquisition from the Mets while offloading a large portion of Robinson Cano’s contract is the one cited as GM Jerry Dipoto’s master stroke. I never question sabermetrics and algorithms and 100% abide by whatever they tell me to think. MLB rumors: Padres, Brewers not lined up for Josh Hader trade; ... For now, though, the Dodgers can beat up on that bullpen for at least the first few months of the 2021 season. # of teams to actually spend money on free agents this off season: Grisham (15th overall) Gotta tip my hat to your staunch support of your club, @mestfan22. My mistake. Wonder how many big brother will win by today. ============================================================== Your ideas of what the Padres gave up in these deals is comical. Featured Columnist January 13, 2021 Comments. 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Beat me to it. Lmao as you toss out insults in your comments. However, he managed to work a two-out walk from Kenley Jansen. Plenty of teams would love to have Blake Snell on his contract. Too many casual fans see a big name, and automatically like the trade. 2019 they signed 15 ifas and to my knowledge theyve traded Preciado and Mena. Boy im going to buy you a cape so you can go from mad to super mad. Shortly after swinging the trade with Tampa Bay, Preller & Co. pried 2020 NL Cy Young finalist Yu Darvish and catcher Victor Caratini from the Cubs. As I was reading your post I thought that was going to be the meat of my response. Once Austin Nola returns from a fractured finger, he and Caratini should give the Padres a solid one-two behind the plate with Luis Campusano also in the mix. 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This winter, San Diego walked a tight rope between going all-in and building a postseason favorite and casting an eye […] Padres trade half of their Top 30, still have 6th-best farm system - Friars on Base - Friars on Base - A San Diego Padres Fan Site - News, … Find out the latest game information for your favorite MLB team on CBSSports.com. Tatis jr, grisham, cronenworth, nola, machado, hosmer, darvish, snell, paddack, etc under contract least 3 more years. So, even in spite of dumping double-digit prospects in these deals, the Padres’ farm system is still pretty loaded. Team didn’t want Darvish because he is 35 and inconsistent through out his career. On to the topic. Guaranteed. Photo credit should read CHRIS WILKINS/AFP via Roberto Alomar | 2B | 1991-1995 Roberto Alomar was born February 5, 1968, in Ponce, Puerto Rico. Sustained winning takes more than handing contracts to the big names that fans typically drool over. 45) and outfielder Robert Hassell III (No. 2019 theyve kept Abrams and Mears, traded Driscoll and Head from their top choices. It appears the Padres are in capable hands with Preller at the helm, but how would you grade their offseason? Ah so they DO have a chance to get a pick with where their payroll is at…because they meet the other critera…..small market team…which contradicts your previous statement of they wont, implying they dont qualify to receive a competitive balance pick. That organization has zero track record of developing talent and has to rely on trades to be competitive. He has also yielded just one earned run in his first 19 innings in a Padres uniform. Oh all of them? Since last August’s trade deadline, the San Diego Padres had one of the biggest roster turnovers in major league baseball. 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